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i. think that's like. everybody told you if you did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution which says that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy which. never go on. and on this show we reveal the nature of what's actually going to go beyond identifying the truth rational debate and real discussion critical issues facing america. ready to join the movement then welcome the. nate suite in washington d.c. and for tom hartman here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture all eyes will be on the lone star state tomorrow as wendy davis tries to secure her stop top
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spot for her spot at the top of the democratic ticket for texas governor could it davis primary win be enough to turn texas blue we'll talk about that more internet big picture politics panel also there have been five mass extinctions in the history of planet earth could climate change cause the sixth and the internet was once the last refuge of the real free market but if we don't do something soon it will become the next kingdom of the robber barrons tom will explain why in tonight's only take. you need to know this more than three hundred people were arrested outside the white house and sunday during a protest against the keystone x.l. pipeline system the student led rally which was organized by the group the scent started in georgetown and then made its way down to the white house an estimated twelve hundred people are thought to have participated and their message to the
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rest their message was clear if president obama wants to make good. good on his inaugural promise to fight climate change he needs to reject the keystone pipeline for progressive there really isn't any debate about what president obama should do when it comes to the pipeline extracting tar sands oil is among the most carbon intensive activities in the world and the oil itself is so toxic that spills are borderline impossible to clean up in fact four years later the cleanup of the tar sands oil spill along that kalamazoo river in michigan is still a work in progress but despite the obvious dangers of the keystone x.l. pipeline there's a very good chance that president obama ok's it that's because in january the state department said in its final environmental impact statement on the project that approving the pipeline would not have a big impact on global warming the stakes really couldn't be higher if the president does end up approving the keystone x.l. x.l. pipeline that decision could split the progressive movement and the democratic
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party right into and what's worse the leader of the world's second biggest carbon emitter that's the united states of america will lose the chance to draw a line in the sand against global warming once and for all a chance we actually may never get again. joining me for tonight's big picture politics panel are ben cohen editor of the daily banter and founder of the banter media group and sam sex our chief political commentator ben sam thanks for joining me to get started so i think the photo focus of yesterday's protests was pretty obvious if the president doesn't reject the keystone x.l. pipeline he's going back on one is one of his biggest campaign promises and that was obviously to you know start the moment where people what back generations from now and say you know that was the bone room we put a finger in the dike of global warming and stop the oceans from exactly exactly i think that yeah that was a direct quote do you think he's listening to the people that are making those
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demands and if you feel that he fulfilled his campaign promises. i mean he understands that the huge amount of pressure i guess is he has the problems whether . the actual morality of this is feasible you know whether he can out of this in terms of the pressure he's facing from the lobbying groups and leave it up where he has to do a cost benefit analysis i would hope that he really pulls his finger out and puts a stop to this bop i've not sure what kind of push he has to face internally yeah i think it's a matter of if president obama really is the environmentalist that the environmentalist movement thought he was when they elected him and i don't see is huge of a disconnect between his rhetoric in the actual policies in acted although he's spoken sort of alarmingly about climate change about the rising oceans and about the threats our kids are going to face he's also when he's talked about solutions he's always indorsed and all of the above solution keeping in place clean coal he's a big proponent of fracking so he wants to keep all these all these methods of
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enter fossil fuel energies in place that the environmentalist move the movement doesn't agree with but that tends to be who we is as a politician yet i think what's particularly frustrating about his wishy washy attitude towards the keystone x.l. pipeline or what seems to be a wishy washy attitude towards that is when he first campaign for president and even isn't in his inaugural address last year he always made it seem like he was going to be the guy that made difficult decisions about climate change i mean it's obviously not an easy issue to make policy changes about but this seems to be one of those issues that if you're if you actually care about climate change you would make a politically risky stand especially as a second term president i don't see why he's not willing to use his capital as a second term president to really you know go against a lot of people those own party red state democrats like mary landrieu and go ahead and reject the pipeline why do you think he's unwilling to do that i mean i think he's fighting a number of those i hate to other want to defend him on this particular issue because i'm going to be pretty devastated if he doesn't put
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a stop to it but he's fighting it now. number of those on a number of different fronts and he only has so much political capital he can spend up you know he's got the minimum wage he has the you know the ground ball going to whatever's left of. he's you know the republicans all came from every single angle possible spin this puts work up there he called please everybody i mean i would hope from an involvement a point of view this to me at least anybody who understands saw is this is the most pressing question over the environment so. in four to often the difficult decision hasn't been the one taking on corporate interests president obama has made it's been the one taking on members of his own party that he's talked about difficult decisions like chained c.p.i. when he was floating that idea that would that was what he was considering a difficult decision but i don't see downsides to not approving this pipeline i
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don't think this is an issue that's on the radar of many voters that are going to hurt democrats back home keystone pipeline and i think that this this is this is a movement an environmentalist movement that needs symbolic victories and say what you want about keystone but it would be a symbolic victory and with the president not facing any reelection consequences he can deliver that victory to the exact doesn't it shows that he's not the environmentalist that is yeah and i think it's also a question of he really needs to reframe the debate about climate change too often democrats have been on the defensive by rejecting keystone you all go on the offensive real quick guys the stier brothers have been merged instead of the or want to be koch brothers the left tom styer as you know former hedge fund manager promised that he said he would give one hundred billion dollars to support candidates who want to take action on climate change is this the type of action that progressives and democrats should be hoping for in the fight against climate change or remembering some sort of a deal or are you walking down a dangerous path i'm always a little skeptical of any billionaire come afterward pledging to devote a ton of money to some political cause even if it's
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a political cause on the left because ultimately the left will never be the right when it comes to raising money you know. community organizers and progressives are going to be taking on banks and heads of major industries when it comes to spending more money in our elections so we might win a few skirmishes. if you skirmishes moving forward on climate change but if you scare me oil industry on this issue with money exactly i think it's an issue of you just gauging in a battle that you may not have human investment in clean energy and overturning citizens united maybe you could write on tuesday president obama will put forward his fiscal year twenty fifteen budget proposal house republicans will follow suit at the end of the month and according to the washington post the paul ryan authored budget will be a direct counter to president obama's recent emphasis on the gap between rich and poor and will focus on welfare reform and recommend a sweeping overhaul of social programs including headstart and medicaid in other words it's going to be a repackaged version of every single paul ryan ryan budget ever so when ben i
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actually want to get your take on this when writing this budget paul ryan is apparently influenced by the tory party and u.k.'s attitude towards trying to make itself more appealing to on issues of income inequality and poverty a do you think that's a good example for the democrat for the republican party here in the united states to use and d. do you think this this attempt by paul ryan will to make the republican party seem more poverty friendly actually help the republican party or is it just you know another repackaging of old fashioned ideas when if you look at what's happened in the u.k. it's been a spectacular dissolves to the conservative policy of ramming through severe budget cuts which is the best thing in particular in the u.k. it also caused another recession i don't doubt it percent should double dip recession and you've got consecutive terms of over over and over detroit contraction i mean it's in a sorry state the u.k. every you know every so i go by the government is not popular so poor ron thinks
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that this is going to appeal to voters i mean the thing is that they're using language to talk about income inequality. so they can get the vote so they can get people to all of the republicans do care about this this issue where if you look at the actual policies themselves it's the complete opposite which is we've talked with the tories did the tories very. i know it's warm and fuzzy about income inequality but i've done absolutely nothing. taking the country in the opposite direction where in the quality you can record is even worse now the republicans have often talked about reframing their platform not changing their platform which is the problem there. they view it as a marketing issue you know i was about to pull a solution but one thing that's interesting here is despite how crazy these paul ryan budgets that come out every year are and how. progressives look at these and they say this is this would be a disaster for the country if in fact that you go back to paul ryan's two thousand and ten budgets and look at the discretionary spending levels that he proposed in
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those and we also that it was crazy well those are the ones that were all that we're living in because republicans each year through hostage taking they're threatening government shutdowns through the sequester they've been able to exact these harsh spending cuts and paul ryan has won this battle yet i think we do know if there's any bright spot to come out of this you know the newest paul ryan budget all but it seems to be more of the same for the republican party is that at least he's not using the deficit as an argument to reduce social programs that that this new budget is at least according to the washington post is pretty much entirely designed around the republicans for spots in the idea of the war on poverty and while you know obviously that's another argument democrats have to have at the republicans and progressive step to have the conservatives it might be nice to see that it will be fashion and traditionally progressive way as opposed to just you know the misleading aspect of the of the budget wars which i think a lot of people got caught up in without really understanding what was truly going on. and i mean i'm not completely convinced that you won't hear deficit hawks come out and still talk about the deficit because it's not about the deficit it was
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never about the deficit it's ideological it's about undoing the new deal exactly and do doing any progressive games and until they achieve those ends you'll keep hearing the deficit hawks come up and use that as an excuse for that yeah hopefully hopefully people will realize now that the deficit stuff is just a nonsense to be good enough to be a myth. all right more of tonight's big picture politics panel right after the break. to. see.
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live . live. in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want. welcome back with me for tonight's big picture politics panel are sam sax and ben cohen guys let's get back to it all right tomorrow is primary day in texas and for the first time in a while democrats actually have something to be excited about stare at lone star state wendy davis the state senator who made headlines last seen with her epic
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filibuster of an anti reproduction reproductive choice bill is this is expected to run away with the democratic nomination progressive strategists all across the country hope that davis conspirator had a campaign to turn texas the reddest of red states into a blue state all right guys no democrat has won a statewide election in texas since one thousand nine hundred four that was in returns who is the governor for a job george w. bush how real realistic is it is it for people to think that wendy davis can you know need to have blue tide over texas or that she can even when they smoke in the house that they're going to shoot it down it's going to be a hunting season for the republicans. to put a huge amount of money into to pieces so i called a bunch of she's got this a lot of the way so i don't think she's going to win this race but. i have family in texas who are democrats and they've been despairing for a decade in texas and now there's optimism and i think that's kind of
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a feeling that's among a lot of democrats in texas as you move from despair to optimism so that it's hard to fundraise when you're despairing though you can maybe fundraise you can start building some coalitions in in texas and maybe build it for the future and even if you're not going to win texas if you can force the g.o.p. to divert resources away from other states that they're trying to compete in just to defend texas you managed to change the political map that way you can make the g.o.p. fight a battle but they weren't necessarily expecting before and are at some sort of building on to this topic of a democratic strategies in a recent editorial for the. washington post pure research center director and you andrew kohut said that democrats should worry about their party's left or and shift i personally think the opposite i think the general progressive trend democratic party we're seeing with people like elizabeth warren and bill de blasio is a good thing how do you think. the dam a lot of to i know a lot of democrats are sort of skeptical of the party's progressive shift of the past few years just because they worry about some of that what defeats what
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happened in the one nine hundred seventy s. with george mcgovern and then one nine hundred eighty s. and walter mondale do you think there's a reason for progressives to be sure and to be concerned about the progressive shift in the party or is that just you know more clearly democrats being naysayers . yeah no i don't think it should be considered all i think they should. i think they should embrace it i think i think there's a silent. group large group of very progressive people in the country that aren't being spoken to there is these studies a few years ago that people looked at ideal wealth distribution models and they looked at a model from the united states a model from sweden and a model of complete income distribution and most americans preferred the swedish model over the american model i mean economically we are socialist health care swedish socialists so we need democrats to be talking to these people and that's where you need that left flank of the party out there preaching this president otherwise what is the democratic party stand for we talked about keystone or the
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environmentalist party because of the president perhaps keystone it's going to be hard to to to say that they are they for entitlements are they for unions are they for nonintervention for peace it's hard to figure out what the democrats are in bed what i think is so interesting is it seems to me like there's a sense twenty twelve elections there but a lot of democrats democrats have been super confident about the party's electoral chances in the upcoming years just because of changing demographics in the country a do you think that attitude is a little presumptuous about the democratic party and its electoral successes and do you think that having a sort of populous spent can help the demo. make up for any problems that can come about from demographic changes i think if you look at the demographics the the g.o.p. knows that there's a ticking time bomb they know there are very very deep trouble the color of the nation is changing dramatically so yeah they have a big problem up front so i think. they can be optimistic about up i mean in terms of the way the democratic policies it's critical the left moved the left this
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movement in the united states is complex you've got the civil libertarians you've got the progressives you've got the call of the old school democrats and the not completely at loggerheads right now but the divisions are getting stronger struggle struggle and they're all sorts of a lot is happening with the civil libertarians on the left of the right splitting taking people away from the old school values. you know personally i like the idea of an old school so i would like to see more of the cult of swedish socialist type and i really thought that that sort of diversity you know benefits them accredit party in a healthy way so moving on guys new york times is reporting that the american citizen the obama administration wants to assassinate this is a guy that came up a couple weeks ago in an eighty report is known as a dual shani and that he lives in the rugged wilds of northwest pakistan according to the times the f.b.i. investigated mr shami and determined that he had been born in the united states but that he had left his even child and had not maintained any ties to the country in the year sense mr shami worked his way up the ranks of al qaeda is according to the
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f.b.i. that is more worked up his way into the ranks of al qaeda senior leadership in pakistan and appears to have risen to become one of al qaeda is top planners for operations outside pak cynically plots against american troops in afghanistan so guys do any of these revelations change your opinion about whether or not the united states should be assassinating american citizens american citizens citizen sort of theoretically joined al qaeda the two issues the first is that he's an american citizen and if the country takes its citizenship seriously then of course he shouldn't be assassinated. and citizens number one number two if he's in pakistan and we do not the states is killing it will return to such a nation would have to be in itself it's a very it's a violation of international law is a can so those two things that you have to be consistent you know it's are exceptions when it comes to the justice entitle to a us citizen. i would say that the revelations that have come out out of the intercept of the last few weeks is just more proof that the drone program is
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a problem even if it is it's accurate i don't know if it's accurate it's completely based on metadata on phones that are being handed back and forth to people which seems to suggest that lots of innocent people can be killed which is actually what's happening so yeah i would have to agree with you there stan banco and sam sachs thanks so much. all right if the obama administration does end up throwing a drone strike on a bill that's the guy we were just talking about that would make him the fifth american citizen assassinated by a drone since obama took office this is a startling departure from the vision the framers of the constitution had when they gathered in philadelphia seven hundred eighty seven to write the constitution in fact as tom pointed out recently the framers would be appalled if they knew what the obama administration is up to with its drone program. on monday the associated press reported that the white house is considering using a drone strike to assassinate an american citizen accused of ties to al qaeda if
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the administration ends up approving that strike at this target would become the fifth american citizen killed by our government's so-called remote assassination program is that the white house is considering killing yet another american comes less than a year after the president announced reforms to the drone program during a speech at the national defense university in that speech president obama said that while it was unconstitutional for the government to kill its citizens without due process lethal force was sometimes necessary to take out americans who wage war against their mother country. for the record i do not believe it would be constitutional for the government to target and kill any u.s. citizen with a drone or with a shotgun without due process. but when a u.s. citizen goes abroad to wage war against america and is actively plotting to kill u.s. citizens and when neither the united states nor our partners are in
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a position to capture him before he carries out a plot it's citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected from a swat team so it is the administration's new target meet that standard does he really pose a direct imminent threat to the united states unless the white house decides to let the public in on its internal review process will ever really know for sure that fact alone should concern anyone who believes the founding principles of this country the framers of the constitution never intended for the president and the executive branch leads to have the power to wage war anywhere anytime and against anyone let alone against an american citizen in fact they did everything they could to restrict both the power of the military and the ability of the president the chief executive to use that military to wage war without end of honors and framers believed that
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a military was sometimes necessary for self defense but they did not want to become a standing army during times of peace the type of standing army that they had seen overthrow governments in europe time and time again over the course of history and so in article one section eight of the constitution the founders gave congress the elected representatives of we the people the exclusive power to raise and support arms it reads to raise and support armies but no appropriation of bonnie to that use shall be for a longer term than two years this is the only place in the custom to show where the power of congress to appropriate money is time limited and that's because the founders were so concerned about the power of a standing army during times of peace. at the same time they were so where are the of the dangers of military power the founders made the head of the military a civilian the president states and made him a coat of all to the voting public rather than to the military and to make sure
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that even that vast head of the military never became the puppet of the generals the founders gave to congress exclusively the ability to declare. the power to declare war does not exist in article two of the constitution that's the part that refers to the powers of the president it's not a power that the president has only congress article one only congress has that power. the idea behind all of this was to provide a standing army that could wage war without end and collude with the executive branch to turn on we the people and snuff out our republic as james madison wrote in a letter to a friend in a war the discretionary power of the president is extended the president's influence and dealing out offices honors and of all humans is multiplied and all the means of seducing the mines are added to those of subduing the force of the people no nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
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today it's obvious that james madison's worst nightmare is of come true not only do we have a massive standing army with a multi billion dollar prize today we also have an executive branch that wages war with impunity all across the globe and what's worse most of the decisions regarding that use of force abroad are made behind closed doors without any input from the voting public or their elected representatives the fact that the white house is now considering assassinating another american citizen should concern us all but tragically in light of the expansion of the military and executive branch's war powers since the beginning of the cold war. it frankly shouldn't be all that surprising. standing armies and powerful executives will always threaten our liberty congress needs to reclaim their exclusive constitutional power to both declare and wars and soon put an end to this never ending so-called war on terror. coming up global warming is real and it's probably worse
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than we ever imagined but if we don't do something quick extreme weather like the kind we've seen over the past couple weeks will be the least of our worries it's time to start talking about the word extinction the reason why right after the break. well for the. science technology innovation all the least of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. wealthy british style.
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have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. all the east coast is getting better but another snowstorm southern california is under water thanks to monsoon like rain storms the region has been battling one of the worst droughts in history but if the ten inches of rain bird dumped in some places in that state over the past few days los angeles alone has seen more than two and a half inches of rain over the past forty eight hours more rain than that city has seen in the past eight months and because the ground was so dry the rain hasn't been able to sink into the ground causing flash floods power outages and mudslides suburbs of los angeles that were just two weeks ago under wildfire while wildfire warnings had to be evacuated over the weekend because of
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a deadly mudslide fears and to make matters worse all of the rain that fell over the weekend in california still isn't enough to fix that state's drought problem right now california's water supply is out just forty four percent of what it's usually at this time of year richard staplers spokesman for the california natural resources agency told reuters that despite these recent storms it would still have to rain every other day intill around may to reach average person average precipitation totals and even then we would still be in a drought due to the last two dry years. the monsoon like raids in california the drought that the region is simultaneously experiencing and the winter storms that are pounding the east coast right now are all severe weather events that have a severe weather events that we will see more and more of thinks the global climate change and global warming but if we don't stop if we don't do something soon to stop climate change we won't just have to worry about devastating floods historic droughts and punch snowstorms we might have to worry about the future of the human
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race and that is the subject of tom's new documentary last hours. considered a little late to go extinct because of manmade climate change. it's hard to imagine earth without life we take life for granted but life has not always flourished here. has experienced dramatic loss of life or what we call mass
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extinction five times over the course of geologic history each one of these events as resulted in the loss of more than half of all life on earth and the largest and most devastating of all was the permian mass extinction almost all life on earth disappear and we have very much extinction is in essence just the greatest crisis that life on earth is ever so foods by the end of the permian mass extinction ninety five percent of all life on the planet is dead and why is this important today because today a sixth extinction is underway one that will test the survival of not just human civilization but possibly of the human species itself and it bears a horrifying resemblance to several previous global warming driven events like the permian mass extinction i think it is certainly extremely significant that
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a lot of the main crises of the past associated with global warming and so will be . in the present day when we think of extinctions we think of the dinosaur killing k.t. mass extinction which was triggered by a sudden catastrophic collision with the bt you're right but the most deadly force behind all extinctions isn't from outer space it's from underground under. under the ice or trillions of tons of carbon wise in weight in the form of frozen methane if this methane melts and is released into the atmosphere it will produce a sudden and massive global warming durian the permian mass extinction greenhouse gases released by volcanic eruptions in an area that is today called the siberian tracks these along with the heat from the lava flow itself warms the atmosphere of the earth by at least six degrees celsius that much global warming to her whole
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land animals plants but far worse you more mda the oceans enough that methane frozen deep under the sea melted and was released into the atmosphere at enormous release of methane a powerful greenhouse gas pretty much the level of moon warming killed over ninety five percent of all life on earth and in the sea it's a kind of a scary thought but. maybe one of the best geological analogs for the kinds of rapid changes in climate and c o two in the atmosphere that we're going to wait nests now in for the next few centuries potentially is this and permian time when. as you know that culminated in one of the largest mass extinctions that we know of on the coast looking at these ancient events shows us time so global warming in the atmosphere
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doesn't care whether the carbon dioxide. it comes from human activity all from a volcano has the same and effects the numbers are very similar from some of the giant love of flows in siberia the amount of carbon dioxide to anything very similar to this sort of fossil fuel burning. come dockside relief that we were doing some of decade after decade to day to date carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was about four hundred words for. a level not seen any time in the history of human life on earth we are increasing c o two levels in the atmosphere at rates far greater than any of the most rapid events that happened in the deep theological past there is no precedent for what we are doing to the atmosphere it is an uncontrolled experiment as you warm the environment that causes the release of more carbon which is either methane or carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that in turn
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increases the rate of warming which releases even more carbon and you can see how this begins to cause a so-called positive feedback or just an ever increasing amount of heating at the end of two thousand and twelve the world bank issued a report warning governments around the world that a five degree temperature increase is likely unless drastic action is taken to curb carbon emissions and a six degree increase was according to some scientists all it took to a tipping point during the permian mass extinction there was a virtual scientific consensus that six degrees was all it took to initiate the p.e.t.n. in both cases involve massive from these since the best way we know that in the bottom of the sea floor. large parts of the ocean margins have they have methane in the solid phase and what happens is is that when you change the temperature it can
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disassociate or you can think of is melting this is frozen methane phase and so the idea is that during some of the. these events we have some triggering her initial cause that forces the ocean temperatures to warm especially in deep parts of the ocean and that's associates or melts is this solid methane phase which then goes into gas which can get into the ocean in the atmosphere methane is way worse than carbon dioxide is the norm right now in soil is a fact anybody in any way when you warm it becomes a gas then it starts acting immediately as a greenhouse gas so this is the immediate and very short term threat to planetary civilization the risk is so-called runaway greenhouse which is the self correcting mechanism cease to k.k. in. a little bit when you release my thing that causes an excess heating and you release more methane and so it goes on that's the probably the biggest
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issue that we face the sea level change is the big one to a very expensive one to manage but the methane release from the tundra once that gets underway we reached a point where we lose the option of having an effective mitigation strategy we can always that and those lines if we activate enough of our been reservoirs in the trust. biosphere that comes unmanageable so that that's unfortunately kind of it used a scenario that our trajectory is. most disconcerting the arctic ice sheet that keeps the carbon stable is melting rapidly in july twenty third team the arctic lost forty one thousand square miles an area half the size of kansas every single day and scientists have witnessed kilometer wide columns of methane gas bubbling up from the ocean floor suggesting the tipping point to runaway
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climate change is dangerously close. well it appears we've already passed the tipping point for an ice free arctic in the summer other tipping points could be centuries generations or just years down the road. the big danger about tipping points is that you can only recognise them when it's too late to do anything about it. so why should we risk these catastrophic events in the case of climate change our planet's life support system is at stake so it is our obligation to take every precaution to stop we must begin to reduce carbon emissions dramatically yet at this moment we're facing a crisis of world leadership powerful fossil fuel corporations are fighting to monetize the trillions of tons of carbon they own but still underground. the world
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community global citizens governments leaders n.g.o.s and corporations must come together step forward and take decisive action. let's continue the research but let's not wait until we pass more tipping points this is the most urgent of times and a most urgent message please forward this to as many people as you. for
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more information on the perils of climate change and solutions to our climate disaster go to last hours dot org coming up according to a new consumer reports study proximately ten percent of americans would consider putting the internet for good reason why tonight's daily take.
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i would rather as questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t. question lol. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some slightly but the fact is i admire their
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commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might think. it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. ok. and our teen years we have a different pretty good because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. ok i've. got a set of jokes that will handle the thing that i've got to. cross
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city council unanimously passed a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing or fracking the moratorium bans all well stimulation activities or in the city of angels until those activities are proven to be safe it also makes los angeles the first oil producing city in california to ban fracking thanks to dick cheney fracking is pretty much unregulated at the federal level let's hope the actions of at least city council can convince lawmakers in washington to take action on fracking before things get out of control the bad george will during an appearance on fox news sunday yesterday the conservative washington post columnist complained that gay rights activists are acting like sore winners check it out. it's a funny kind of sore winner getting rights movement that would say a photographer doesn't want to photograph my wedding and i've got lots of other photographers i could go to but i'm going to use the hammer of government to force them to do this it's not
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a neighbor limits not nice the gay rights movement is winning. they should be not sore winners i'm no george last time i checked the bad neighborhood thing to do would be to refuse to photograph someone's wedding just because they're gay there's nothing rude about demanding that the government protect someone's right to enjoy life liberty and the pursuit of happiness without fear of discrimination and really really that's all the gay rights movement is asking for and the very very ugly john derbyshire the former national review writer is fed up with the republican party's dream branding efforts so fed up in fact that he thinks that the g.o.p. should abandon them altogether be shyer told communities digital news and friday that quote colorblind conservatism is a dead end and the future of the conservative movement is a home for white ethnocentrism. in other words john derbyshire are once the republican party to become a party of white nationalists just very very ugly.
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crazy that's one hot pocket what do you get when you combine a board teenager a thirst for internet fame and a ham and cheese top pocket sex with a hot pocket for all the world to see an eighteen year old who goes by the name for saatchi pockets recently decided to fornicating with a warm and cheesy hot pocket and then post the evidence of the video sharing application vine and after which he is now not surprisingly watched for us for such a pockets has even given some advice to anyone who else who thinks that having relations with a meat filled pastry is a good idea he said that i tried doing it with a condom and it was just like way too hot i put it in the fridge for
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a little bit and i was like dude i'm going to have to use a condom if an act. going to stick my penis in the whole hot pocket so men of the world there you have it if you're going to make love to a hot pocket make sure it's not too hot oh and by the way rumor has it that versace pockets tried out tried out a warm apple pie first but he just wasn't satisfied. according to a recent survey published in the magazine consumer reports seventy one percent of americans would switch to a new internet provider if their old provider started violating their neutrality even more shocking that study also found that ten percent of americans would actually quit the internet all to gether if their internet service provider started
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violating neutrality that's right ten percent of americans about thirty million people would rather have no internet at all then internet without net neutrality let's hope that washington is listening that's because it's only been a month and a half since the d.c. circuit circuit court struck down net neutrality but you don't have to look very hard to see that big companies that comcast already taking advantage of a world without net neutrality just the other week for the exit for example comcast agreed to a deal with netflix that will allow the netflix direct access to comcast broadband networks without strong neutrality rules companies like nick comcast the netflix are free to convert the internet among themselves and block out all competition and as tom pointed out in a recent daily take the only way to stop them is to start regulating the internet like a public utility. the internet as we know it is dead on tuesday the d.c. circuit court of appeals the second most important court in the country after the
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supreme court struck down the f.c.c. s. open internet order legal framework that was protecting net neutrality this is nothing short of a disaster the idea behind net neutrality is pretty simple big corporate internet service providers like horizon should have to treat all websites and all web users equally and should not be allowed to treat the internet like their own personal toll road they should be allowed for example to run a music website a crappy speeds just because that music site might compete with one that verizon own it's net neutrality is important because it keeps the internet open for everybody if corporate internet providers like verizon or comcast are allowed to discriminate between websites they can make the owners of competitors sites pay them top dollar to run their websites at the high speed again without a trial of rising could treat the internet like it's own privately owned toll road people who wanted to drive on it would have to pay up beforehand if those people didn't pay up verizon could slow down the speed of their websites this would
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obviously be great for horizon but it could make it near impossible for rival websites to compete with horizon own websites and put a damper on a lot of innovation which is exactly why big internet corporate providers have been trying to gut net neutrality for years it went through the d.c. circuit court ruling they finally got their wish net neutrality in the us is dead for the moment and big internet service providers are now free to discriminate against web users and websites as much as they watch the roots of tuesday's decision go back almost twenty years ago when congress redefined the types of technology services that the f.c.c. could regulate in the telecommunications act of one thousand nine hundred six in that act congress said that internet companies like verizon were providing an information service as a. goes to a common carrier service is something it's an information service the company that provides that service is free to charge you more money for different levels of
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access the best example is cable television which is considered an information service and therefore not a common carrier for example your cable company could charge it twenty five bucks for basic package twenty five dollars more for premium news and sports channels five bucks more for a big ticket movie channel it's up to. you know what they want to offer it's up to you what channels you want to buy but the basic point is that your cable company as the information service can treat its users differently depending on how they use their televisions and what they watch common carrier services are not allowed to do this phone companies for example are common carriers as a common carrier service your phone company can't just charge you for doing something like using your personal phone line to talk business with a friend they can't listen in and say oh it's a business call we're going to charge you extra that's because a common courier service you as a common carrier your phone companies providing a public good it's basically a utility and utilities like telephone service water service are considered part of
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the commons because they're natural monopolies and natural monopoly is when you really can only have access to one thing just like you only have one water line or one power line running in your house you typically only have one telephone line running in your house it's true for most american users of the internet today that they only have one internet line running in their house just like most americans have only one water line or one telephone line running in their house most americans only have one line running to their house and that's their cable line. as a society we generally define natural phenomena monopolies as common carriers because they're perceived to be part of the commons because it's important for everyone to have open access to them without having to worry about being ripped off by a particular utility company that's why the f.c.c. should designate internet service providers like her. rise and as common carrier services rather than information services something by the way they could do tomorrow if they chose to. the f.c.c.
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should do this because by providing internet service risin comcast a.t.t. and other big internet service providers are giving their customers access to one of the most important parts of our modern information. if we want to make sure that everyone can use that part of the information on the internet we need to regulate internet service providers as common carriers and the internet was just starting out and people access to it by dialing in through their phone lines there were tens of thousands of companies across america offering dial up access. minutes so back then you could make an argument to those internet service providers with information services road common carriers because there was so much competition in the marketplace but now that we're near it near in time when almost seventy five percent of american households only have one choice for internet service access to and one pipe coming into the house access to the internet has become both
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a natural monopoly and in a very real way close to an oligopoly very small number of companies owning it. with the rise of cable bundling internet marketplaces now dominated by giants like verizon comcast eighteen t. of the result is that most people only have a very limited number of ways to get access to the internet as such access to the internet is a natural monopoly and therefore should be regulated by the f.c.c. as a common carrier service unfortunately the f.c.c. in the us supreme court or at least the district court spirit courts don't see it that way. in two thousand two hundred george w. bush the f.c.c. classified broadband internet access companies provided by companies like verizon as an information service this is something that colin powell did when he ran the f.c.c. he's now the chairman by the way of the telecommunications lobby industry got very rich because of this in two thousand and five the supreme court upheld michael
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palls decision to make that and the and the f.c.c. is power when he was the head of it to make that classification and in two thousand and ten when the f.c.c. issued an open internet order to protect net neutrality they neglected to define internet service providers like horizon as common carriers and that was a huge mistake in the d.c. circuit court struck down net neutrality on tuesday it said that because the f.c.c. defines companies like verizon as information services net erat net neutrality something that's mandated for common carriers was unnecessary. the stakes couldn't be higher bottomline modern life and our modern economy depend increasingly on the internet small businesses needed to grow everyday people needed to shop for goods or just learn about the world around them all those things will be a lot harder to do if companies like of arising can discriminate against start up websites where every day internet users to pad their profits we need to petition
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the f.c.c. to change their rules so that internet service providers like the rise of our lay. it is common carriers not information services that way net neutrality will be preserved and the internet will remain open to everyone not just giant corporations get a free press dot net to sign the petition and tell you have c. see how you feel. and that's the way it is tonight monday march third two thousand and fourteen don't forget democracy begins with you as tom always says get out there get active tag you're it. well. it's technology innovation all the latest developments from
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around russia. that's huge you're covered. i marinate joining me. for impartial and financial reporting commentary interviews and much much. only on going bust and only.
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on larry king now the unstoppable set of the green he is a culture love an underdog story but we tend to want to tear down anyone who gets too successful without any kind of humbling or comeuppance i'm not josh brolin i'm not brad pitt i'm not matthew mcconaughey so i'm not going to play those kinds of parts but i am like dust and whomp man or stanley tucci or or you know deniro or but you know and my goal is to play all the kinds of roles that i can whether it's comedy or drama plus i got a message from our casting person that said sorry larry king respectfully passes. all next on larry king now.
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welcome to larry king now we're welcoming back to the studio seven screen actor writer producer voiceover virtual soul. i love the word virtual and i want to say it again virtual world you know i'm as a longtime voice of chris griffin on family guy as eli's sax on the fox comedy dads and as the where of too many hats on robot chicken the one hour season finale of beds is february eleventh with a pm eastern seven central on fox he just turned forty and i did eighty was my second worst fifty was my worst was forty bad for you know this was easy i actually got a bunch of friends together that i hadn't seen especially in the same place in a really long time and just had an easy night of hanging out and celebrating it was great the only thing when you're forty the change of life you have to start getting cold enough to please isn't that funny i had my doctor i went for a full physical and he's like oh ok i think i think we can wait another year for the prostate exam and i was like i don't i just don't want any of that it's into
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that procedure. others talk about beds created by the guys who wrote ted one of my all time favorite may well time favorite comedy what house did stewing really well we've actually you know we started slow i think because critics were so. outspokenly hateful about the show then they don't like them it's they want to see him fail or maybe i mean that's that's an interesting point to consider when someone you know we we as a culture love an underdog story but we tend to want to tear down anyone who gets too successful without any kind of humbling or comeuppance we kind of tend to project our own. you know feelings or thoughts or insecurities on to that person has had a great string of success is not going to be another that people get ticked i don't know if it's envy or more they just want to we call truly want to make sure that people don't get too big for their britches and they'll want to know where they come for a little yeah but he's he's really not that kind of guy i think just the persona of
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the people he's somebody with it just makes promises he doesn't keep but i wonder if there is shouldn't. it shouldn't just go something like that he said you know you could be on family guy at some point in that he doesn't mean that in the next that well that still has yet to be shot there and i would expect him to get on that . because of the show's doing well now we've really seem to find an audience and people are there are getting we're going or it's right now it's just like that happy days yeah i love it you do i do that mediums designed this kind of show is written to be performed like a play in front of an audience and so there's a rhythm and a cadence to all the humor you would usually have on the release yeah i love him we've known each other over twenty years and you know we're teenagers at the same time in l.a. going through a lot of the same experiences we. were good friends. you know you can work well you can make chemistry with anybody who is willing to participate but if you have history with somebody there's definitely a comfort there why do you take on beds i love everybody involved in it and deep
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down i really love good multi camera comedy and i love the opportunity to do a show every week where i'd have a lot of fun and where i thought we were going to make a lot of people laugh and be entertained plus the schedule of multi camera allows for me to continue to do all the produce oriel stuff that i've been working on ohs a. multi camera usually our day is our week is wednesday and tuesday so wednesday we get a table read starts at about noon and we're done that day by like four o'clock so noon to four and then on thursday we'll start about seven am and be done by about two thirty so seven to two and then friday will start about eight am and go until about two thirty or three o'clock so it's a really short day and then my mondays all day there and my tuesday is all day that we pretape and then taping for the audience goes home maybe. yeah it was a sound wednesday you know i've got the whole morning until noon and that if we're working on robot i can fit in a couple of records or reviews or things like hands on monday as he doesn't have to
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be too hands on but he we use his weight in relationships when it's most valuable to us you. fifteen years well yeah how did you get the part of chris christie i auditioned and i didn't even think i was going to get that job but i just took a swing that was weird and unusual on it were only does an enormous hit it's revolt it's crazy yet seven year olds like it and seventy year olds like it that a lot of stuff goes over the ten year olds head right why does it work. i don't know i mean there's some kind of equalization of comedic in tag i don't know cartoons or it's funny it's silly it's fast it's loud it's weird it's you know my fourteen year olds are addicted it's culturally subversive you know the same way that bugs bunny was we just was my favorite as a kid even if you're antisocial. but it but it's evolved you know we culturally
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evolved comedy has evolved we're. we've been trained really well since early shakespeare times as an audience to know the things to get things were more savvy than we ever were so the comedy is kind of sped up a gotten liver and that's not up to me i know we're going at least another year or so we all signed a deal for at least another year or so but it really is it ups it's up to farland with a surprise when fox signed on to that well they didn't you know it's a signed on they they produced twenty two episodes of it and then we produce like nineteen episodes without an air date without a schedule of their own and sure originally yeah and then the show was canceled and off the air for three years but for that but my class so from the adult swim who greenlit robot chicken he got the produced episodes of family guy to run second run on adult swim and the ratings were so high over a million viewers that fox thought they could beta program putting whole seasons of
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t.v. shows on d.v.d. this is before all the t.v. shows had been released in their entirety on d.v.d. yes so fox put out season one a family guy and in the first week it sold over a million copies and money talks more than anything else you can see the fan demand for that show is really high so maybe it would be rough going i don't think the rupert made any i don't think he personally stamped enter and nobody's going to stamp it out you could have he could have but but again money talks and when a product that the company already owns is able to generate that kind of revenue it seems silly not to reproduce it of all the things you've done in the toplessness in forty years is robot chicken your favorite. my favorite i don't know i didn't mean to you it's an insane kind of freedom because we for all you know almost ten years have just been able to make this show that we find funny and we don't really consider any other information in it except whether or not we find it funny it is a side project with the friends did it started is just something we wanted to make
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and you know when we produced for the internet before there was broadband capability. for people to even view so what have been the me being in it i'm going to hear it i have this right here so on october fourteenth of two thousand and thirteen i got a message from our casting person that said sorry larry king respectfully passes and so i believe there's a division between you and your agents i'm just saying there might be something you want to tell your agents about agent this i'm just saying i've got this i've got this e-mail that came from our cause i know i'm trying to get you on so we had a sketch where we'll see what this judge did this case was. like it was air bud but air bud the dog you know the best plan dog so everybody gets at the end of the air bud movie the kids hugging the dog and he's like i love you or but and so right in that moment an agent comes up and signs air bud to be a contract player for the n.b.a. and then this dog is in the in the n.b.a. just like killing it and he's in you know the bus partying with girls and he gets
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lawsuits against him for a hotel you know improprieties and then he's all he said on larry king and you're asking him questions about whether or not it's going to his head and you're asking about the fact that his contract is. feline h.p.v. virus and how can a dog can contract a feline virus and then he's foaming at the mouth and you're like oh my gosh he's on drugs and he flips over the table and the thing goes to static and you come up and explain that our budget is now under sedation and it was just a silly thing of the world. the role oh good ok anything anyway come and we'll come and look things grown up yes i was the first comic i read was while i read i read archie comics i guess but the first like actual superhero comic i read was fantastic for like a good choice for. you know people who blew kids' usual highness' screen well i think it i could play better than. i guess it really depends on what batman you're playing and i think that comic book fans have gotten used to the idea that modern.
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mainstream is accepting of. interpretations these characters with more gravitas you know we're past the time of adam west's kind of goofy interpretation of batman and we're more didn't like michael keaton yeah i love michael keaton michael keaton has a real you got to remember that at the core of that character batman's a crazy person batman has no powers batman is a rich screwed up kid whose parents were killed in front of him who with his money and insanity decided to become a vigilante symbol to combat the arson bill is perfect chris and it was great because he plays that part and then you know the notion of superman versus batman or superman and batman is that's a long standing coming in that was going to go it's a long standing thing in the comic when they were in the justice league together with rahman bone over that leave that is that superman is like i won't ever kill people bam is like well you do what you got to do and that they they bump heads a lot and so if so what's the republicans of well because if this movie is meant to
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be the idealistic alien humans before all else superman and this is supposed to be the grizzle grizzled weather batman who has been living in gotham fighting crime himself for ten years you need a guy who's older you need a guy who's got more weight and you need a guy that a henry cable superman is going to be actually scared of you have to remember that the batman is just a dude he's got no powers so the fact that superman is scared of him says something about the gravitas that he carries and it's not just because he's willing to go out of life he's scary and that's lived a very good you're supposed to hope yes but yes but there is only so much that you can act a role before people are or are not going to believe you in that role i'm never going to play you know an m.m.a. fighter because i'd step into the ring with an actual enemy fighter like but then i wouldn't look correct so there is a physicality of it george clooney a bitch. i don't think george clooney got a fair shake i don't think that schumacher is batman's were worth
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a damn and i think the poor clooney trying to play his interpretation of bruce wayne in that movie he was sort of headed after the star you bullied as a kid oh yeah yeah you can get it you know. in my high i want you to be red hair i was raised jewish i don't weird name i wanted to sing and dance and play with toys as a kid of course i was bullied of course you feel ninth grade i almost failed ninth grade i. nearly failed algebra and then my vice principal let me graduate in but i had to go back and make a course you think is more bullying though we just know more about it and. i think we know more about it now i think we've become more culturally intolerance of it than ever before it used to be you know you each or four food groups you toughen up when you go to school the charles atlas ad was in the back of the magazine so if you're the skinny guy getting sand kicked in your face you're supposed to just work out not to solve all your problems but we don't really know we we know that that's not true anymore but it's a terrible thing bullying on the is so yeah it's
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a terrible thing yeah that's a that's a that's a basic human characteristic to sort of you know exert your superiority over something that's weaker as a young and tone than forty is young actor do you ever desire to be the romantic lead in the film well again i i like to play parts that i believe people can organically previous to why i don't think that i play the conventional romantic role i'm not going to do. you know the lake house or you know what i mean i'm not i'm not i'm not like you know going to see me in bridges of madison county i'm not i'm not josh brolin i'm not brad pitt i'm not matthew mcconaughey so i'm not going to play those kinds of parts but i am like dustin hoffman or stanley tucci or you know deniro or but you know in those cop a play my goal is to play all the. the roles that i can whether it's comedy or drama is just
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a little earlier about why i was not on the show welcome back to the civil discourse leave it to the. crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want.
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i'm the best at it and i pick a side ok i'm big corporation kind of can. do i'm the banker all that all about money and i'm a family that for a politician right the laws and regulations that bankers come up. here are just too much crap is it a guy. that. with the. claim of a lot of families to retirement and we're going to settle that score whatever happened to not being on so we're going to play a little game this is eddie from our sister show we guessed and he's going to help us out ok we're going to do so we're going to do a little improv game called create a character i'll give you a goofy character in
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a goofy situation ten or fifteen seconds of the voice yeah a voiceover star so we'll go with seth first your first character you're a self checkout computer at whole foods who's become self-aware in the form of a condescending lesbian condescending lesbian ok. when you interact with me ok yes please paste please please place the item on the scanner. yeah yeah yeah reflects on the arm there strong guy it's nicely done hello yeah yeah no no please with a barcode facing make. this right facing me is this right oh my gosh you're going to be alone forever upside down all right you gotta get it out of the scanning area please please in the baggage check out area please take it out of the scanning area but in the baggage check out area of the taking in all i guess my girlfriend would hate you. larry yours is a euro your blue brooklyn radio host announcing the death of america's first robot president. can you give me his name his name is on two thousand and two
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thousand. oh it's not a news bulletin for you i don't know how to break this to you but dan tron two thousand he died today and i tell you how he died somebody pulled the plug going to complete investigation sponsored by the warren commission it was on that. you're a renaissance era pageboy reading comments on your on your you tube channel for the first time by own your terms as though you've posted the videos on you tube somehow as a renaissance page boy and you're reacting to the comments. ok so delighted to look at my page comments i put that video of me cask wiring for the king and let's see what do you say oh ok. dumb squire zero nine nice tights. and choose to take that as an affirmative want to thank you so much i thought my tights were quite tight. excellent is a lair your next oil is your mattress salesman the mattresses are made of recycled
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trash. you're going to love this mattress it's much cheaper it's made of recycled trash and don't get upset about that it's the kind of trash this is empty peanut butter cups and they're all molded together and they create a. foam and when you lie you not only have the foam aspect of the smell of peanut butter as sound a life with. this is camus it's our favorite product as it attract insects get another guy i've said you're a white guy only pretending to be cool with diversity driving a prius through englewood ok. hey you know your skin is dark are you just a tan guy or are you a different race or ethnicity. students or i'm curious because your skin is so dark
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are you above a caucasian like me or are you a are you just one of are you someone else that's not caucasian or you got there my prius yeah oh yeah i am i'm ecologically conscious as well as just paying off that that white guilt. go with diversity dude and that is why i'm just offering because i'm so cool with it sure yes so i'm going to spoil it now all right have a great one all right on us a level at. last one is larry your seth green pitching yet another show for fox executives so right away flops what. this is not that i've given you that but it's a book of hits and i want you to buy this show and the show can't miss it's a show you haven't done and. left it alone right wing midgets.
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get the right we need like a little russian a family little rush limbaugh's running around taking all the cotton. they can still was i think that you proved itself study definitely talk about what . you see in robot chicken thank you for helping us in the middle of a thank you thank you that is things that i hear that you're a pup culture historian i'm deadly pop culture and reasons the future's going to look but in this era where does all this go when we're already in a really funny time where we've started sort of folding in on ourselves and i've stopped being less stopped getting as upset about it and more thought about generationally carrying on the falling like the way we reinterpreted shakespeare thousands of times throughout the ages we're now starting to choose different icons of mythologies to carry on to the next generations whether it's batman or superman all these icons are like fifty and seventy years old and not is what if you worry about tomorrow oh worry about it i mean i don't worry about it i'm sure every adult
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at some point looks back at the generation coming up behind them and says oh my gosh they don't know what they're doing they're going to ruin it all but there is no real ruining it all there is only sort of reinterpreting it for the for the day and age that you live in when you're busy. what's what have you given up for all you do i mean you know i put up with. you yeah we see we we make a lot effort to see each other we make we take great pains to connect it yes she does she's an actress and producer i mean that is the part you like to have i haven't really started getting to that point my life where i consider legacy all that much i'm still really focused on. challenging myself and and trying to do things that i haven't done or or or the things that feel most important right now dad's it's ends this season on thoughts is this something you work you know we don't know about. while i'm working on a bunch of stuff we don't know if we're going to get picked up on but if we did we would go back to august so there's
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a couple of and we're just about to wrap post on the robot chicken stuff that i've been closely working on so i'm going to have a couple of weeks where it's a little feeling that it's going to go away and i've got four different projects that i've been trying to push to script at this point that are in all different stages and i don't put the focus on them so i can actually have them finished when you have a script and you can set about making whatever it is you have some social media questions for you sir his name was mike on twitter as your biggest influence growing up. influence i don't think i had a singular influence i was working really young so i had the good fortune of meeting a lot of people who are very well established and successful and bold and the first paid to work seven seven years on you did a scene i did a commercial on but the first movie i did was when i was eight and it was with a nineteen year old jodie foster and rob lowe and beau bridges and wilford brimley and the sassy can skin well i mean all that is
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a hotel new hampshire oh so it's you know was it was like a high profile thing with a lot of very sick so it was the commercial the commercial was john denver industrial for like a record that he was putting out but i got to see everybody both good and bad behavior and that was more influential than anything else bryson via facebook wants to know if you would do a buffy the vampire slayer movie if you got an offer it would really you know we've jost we never wanted to do something else with buffy i'm sure that everybody that was a part of his original show would want to be a part of it nudgee via instagram how did you meet seth macfarlane i met him at the audition and then we worked together for three years and just we had a lot in common so we stayed friends via instagram are you an atheist. no i don't think in the conventional terms the way that people have started waving flags for one side or the other i'm not really a flag waver. tiles shelton via facebook as if you had to play the game mary lay.
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kill with three other. relay kill them in kid's game we're like i'll give you three people and you have to commit one of these acts to one of these people so it's one of the people you want to kill one of the people you want to marry will get one of the ok the other notable says what would you choose to follow and seth meyers. i love mcfarlane i really do although i like both of those guys a lot about growing talent and did you see this is the end by the way did you see rogen to go over his movie this is the end you have to see it is a modern classic it's like flawless and so funny and since then sixteen tweets would you be interested in reprising your austin powers role at this age sure but again that's like if mike myers wants to make an austin powers and has an idea i'm sure everybody that was involved in it wants to go with him lauralee seventy seven instagram wants to know who your heroes are my heroes oh you know the easy ones like spider-man batman. so presumably before tweets you still carry google
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yeah. yeah care of them is that i'm on this half of those questions. we'd like to finish the show the game of you only knew the first person you kissed the furthest north and i think this is i mean like a real kid it was a little girl did you kiss when i was in like second grade a lot was the name i want to say jenny but we weren't near a younger and i was we were i was at school not as in not at school i think i had i walked to her house to bring her some for valentine's day but i was like six my parents were very lenient. what's a guilty pleasure you have. i'd like to spend time by myself when that's possible if you had a superpower what would it be teleportation. really yeah i love to travel but you know what why use our team fourteen hours in the air that's what keeps you up at night what worries you i wouldn't say that worry keeps me up at night but i have
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chronic insomnia since i'm a teenager really what do you take for it yeah gambian you know i don't like pills like that time is just a well you know it's mental stuff it's like it's like meditating you have to really kind of work to meditate and when i'm at a place where i can't sleep i know it and so on for i'll just get up for a minute and find different ways to relax myself until i know that i'm like mentally able to go back to sleep time i didn't sleep that much i really don't time travel space travel well space travel before time travel i'm sure we're you know less than five years away from resolving some of the propulsion issues that are keeping us from consumer spaceflight and then it's a matter of like building because you need supplied to allow for demand so we're going to build with those oh yeah i would do it tomorrow if i get the i assessed before the drop in the ocean to do it is there a catch phrase you'd like to declare a moratorium on a catchphrase. i don't know we can we can people have whatever bumper sticker they
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want under-rated comic book or. underrated comic book character has anybody is there a comic book i used to like when i was a kid you would be known the black terror the black terror and you don't even know and i don't know he was a hero kind of offbeat a little like a little old for them but the black to us was there always a lot about that. same kind of idea yeah tell me something people don't know about you can slam dunk on a ten foot rim you know no problem. that's not true. thank you my guess is fantasizing said the great number you can find me on twitter at kings things i'll see you next time maybe on the chilton.
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i know c.n.n. m s n b c on fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth from the might think. it's because one call attention and the mainstream media works side by. side of the joke actually on here. at our team we have a different approach. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not trying. but. i guess that's the job we'll handle. that.
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we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence whether start or runs on by the military industrial complex if dwight eisenhower were talking today and he wanted to warn americans about the unwarranted influence of the military on society the label he would use would be the military industrial entertainment complex because popular culture and at the time and is now shaped to support spending tax dollars on the military calling. military entertainment complex is a lab of cultural producers and private and government defense interest who work together in order to create entertainment commodities that range from music videos to films to television shows to comic books and of course video games. and what
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they do is they produce cultural goods which in fact support the u.s. military's own interest. explaining why it was better because. a lot of wargames are made the elite ones are made with the cooperation of ex-military and sometimes existing military. some of the sounds of they've recorded have come from military hardware when you look at the liner notes there's extensive thanks to former high up brass and so there's a certain coziness that you know is never going to result in a game that displays anything particularly critical about the way war actually goes . under the bush administration there was an explosion in the serious games movement that's the movement to use games for education to create more military training games this
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is interesting to see in that you would go to video game conventions and you would see military brass who were trying to meet game developers in order to develop more effective training games. and they wanted to try to use off the shelf existing technologies as much as possible or a because it was cheaper and b because those off the shelf technologies are the ones that soldiers already know. that cover that. there is a dual purpose the video game served for the military organizations they are used for simulation which is employed in training and they're also used for recruitment guy and this is best seen or manifest in america's army.
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america's army was created by the u.s. army specifically as a marketing slash recruitment tool. seventeen is the legal age at which the military can actively recruit young people to serve but if you go into a kind of backdoor of video games then you can reach them at the age of thirteen which is roughly the age of the american army was looking for it's rated t. for teen specifically to reach a younger than seventeen audience. one of the things that america's army does is it valorized the u.s. army it supports military engagement it supports military organizations and so it makes us feel good about the military because what a real challenge. it's no.
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more games do a really good job of making more seem incredibly cool and acceptable an acceptable part of everyday life so that when you see this happening all the time around you it doesn't seem doesn't seem like something that shouldn't be happening. that is a more limp act that i think is in some respects even worse than simplistically causing violence. in some respects the argument over de games make kids more violent has been a great disservice to our discussion of video games because it's taken so many eyes off the real impact that some of the violent games can have which is to normalise the idea of a permanent state of war. the united states as a military stick society and that we have had troops actively involved in conflicts
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through the last hundred years that means that young people who are growing up have a reasonable expectation that their peers will be involved in armed combat when roughly half of all discretionary spending goes to the military sector it will be a miracle if the culture of society didn't celebrate all things to do with war in fact you know to make the military and troops especially as the human face of the military almost like a fetish object of adoration and celebration. this reverence has been there for a long time but its intensity was really ramped up after the attacks of nine eleven . i think nine eleven reinforced a pension that was already in existence. we had already fallen in love with our armed forces we had already decided that america's strong suit was military power. that using military power was the principal way that we demonstrated this thing
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called global leadership one of the strange characteristics of american society is how few people especially white middle class actually have a direct connection to it you know they don't serve in it they don't have family in it they don't have friends in it the creation of the so-called all volunteer force at the end of vietnam began a process of dividing the military from american society a gap developed between the two one the function of popular culture is the bridge the divide between the public in the military to provide a kind of fantasy that connects that. and there's no better example of that than video game is you know most of whom would never in a million years volunteer to join the armed forces because it's just too dangerous but who believe that they connected to it through they can experience. now the military of course has been aware of this problem for many years and has explicitly identified video games as
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a way of closing back up whatever society is doing that's what the army's going to be doing but that was the idea behind something called the army experience since ninety percent of males aged sixteen to twenty two are playing military themed video games almost every week for me. nobody knows anything about the army enlisted working there so basically they're so they're just curious they can come in and say you know i just want to check it out it really shows you a worse that now it's not like wars like down here like you know your life on the line when you're in the middle of it when you're playing the games they've gone with you know like you can really feel like you're in the army when you're playing games. to market a war game by suggesting that if you buy this and play this you will be a soldier i think is part and parcel of this strange relationship between the military and society that we have come to have i mean if you want to be
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a soldier marched down to the local recruiting office and assuming you can meet the basic fitness criteria we'll sign you up we'll send you off to boot camp in fact most americans don't want to do that so they have this odd admiration of soldiers is putting soldiers on some kind of pedestal. and games allows people to indulge this identity was soldiers in a way that has no obligations no downside is fraudulent. to. having gone to iraq having you know a lot of friends who've served in combat roles having lost a number of and close friends in conflicts in iraq and afghanistan war and combat
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it's not a glamorous thing for me. collar duty modern warfare is not i mean real soldier it takes a thirty second snapshot from maybe a month in from our friends or in special operations. there's a lot of downtime there's a lot of boredom there's a lot of frustration there's a lot of time just spent walking to get where you're going not only are most americans separate from the military they're also separated from the actual experience of war except for a few very isolated incidents like you know september eleventh the united states has not had the real experience of war and so americans think of war in the abstract you know not as painful reality but in it's kind of celebrate remote you know with big stories troops coming home. their version of war is a one sided fantasy and when they're citizens of the most powerful military society that has ever existed that's
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a disaster for the rest of the world. the reality of war is not simply shooting but it is killing and killing the exacts a penalty of the killer and it's also being susceptible to being killed or maimed and people for whom war is defined by popular media don't get that and therefore their understanding of war is fundamentally false and distorted. powerful forces committed to the proposition that we need to continue to be the world's greatest military power i'm talking about the military industrial complex the national sea security bureaucracy and there are people who make money tom clancy would be a good example also contributing to this line of thought. in this post nine eleven context anything goes. so it's important to recognize that graeme is
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not just think he's in a fantasy about war in general but a very particular conservative version. right from the. video games about war also de aversion from real or particularly around the idea of work crimes rules of engagement the geneva convention and video games how for a very long time sort of glorified the special ops team the rogue soldier who purposefully breaks from the ranks to go off on a mission and what that kind of sets up is this idea that once you are beyond the rules of engagement once you're beyond the expectations of the geneva convention then anything known each other.
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there is a greater acceptance for enhanced interrogation and for extra ordinary rendition so you survive the colonel's torture and that has certainly been a theme of video games for a while now and we're seeing it in our foreign policy as well and there's no outrage there doesn't seem to be much of a civilian response to work crimes in our name it used to be the pop culture was a place where there was some skepticism about this times from the repressive institution of the government for example of film life three days of the call from the one nine hundred seventy s. was about the cia murdering disowning or use who knew too much. nowadays instead we're supposed to be the c.e.o. it was supposed to be the marines were supposed to be the army rangers even as they go about spreading my ham across the world.
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instead of big distance from the institutions of the state when fully identified with them that's the real effects of videogames you have young people raised on entertainment that celebrate certain political standpoints are certain stances to weapons ownership it raises the question do these people then grow up to port a military or to propagate propaganda related to war.
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in two thousand and seven one of the first things released by wiki leaks was a secret video recording that actually looked like a video game showing two american apache helicopters opening fire of a dozen people in iraq during the u.s. occupation in two thousand and seven. what was shocking was not only the footage which showed american troops committing what many people would label a war crime but the fact that it elicited almost no response from american citizens there was no outrage it was kind of just a shrug of the shoulders and then people carried on with their business and i thought this is what it means to live in a society where images of violence have become normalized this is what the sense of isolation and lack of empathy look like you know it's not what people do it's what they don't do. many of these games give us these invasion narratives so they either have invading
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considered to be kind of our own quote rogue nation or sometimes that's a fictional terrorist group that has gotten control of an american city or some sort of technology but fear oftentimes is the principal springboard by which the games justify the marshal response so you have to justify why it is you would send men and women into battle or why it is you would extract this most horrific form of human violence on another person and oftentimes it is to protect the nation state and it begins with fear. not approve her for taking your the prom night shelter under the bonnet and talent out. draw in. a military society needs two fundamental things first it needs a fearful population that will demand
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a strong government to protect it second it needs a relatively. clear vision of who the enemy is of of whom to be fearful of and he needs that enemy to be clearly different from us you know the so-called proverbial other. after nine eleven it's not surprising that the enemy is identified as arabs and the setting for many of the military video games is the middle east. but the pressure to create new products or and somehow someway different from competing video game makers means that there's a constant search for new enemies they can't just be arabs are. so. serious such as. the else just. want to toss the bad guys there is an other ring that happens you need to separate in terms of how they look how they sound so that they feel distant from the hero.
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down and as a result comes as easy jingoism that can come about a lot of these games because you're fighting somebody who doesn't necessarily look like you if you're a white guy doesn't sound like you presumably has different beliefs the new politically religiously and if you are afraid of the other then taking him out his will be easier than taking somebody out who might look just like you. there was this funny trend that happened right after iraq where there was a sense that we can't just make up the bad guys and so they started lunging for things that were kind of funny like servicing the russians appear and i guess it's . the fat cats. where they do come from the funny position right now where they know they can't be openly racist but they need to have someone to fight.
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we feel this interesting shift towards other ng everyone and i think that's operates in a very interesting way if we think about it in terms of contemporary warfare we are in a state of perpetual war at least that's what our politicians and world leaders tell us but not only perpetual war but that our work fronts are everywhere they're over there they're next door and they're in your backyard. the enemy could be anyone and could be anywhere and that is fear and anxiety pretty. the enemy is everywhere and can be anyone and then you have to protect every front and everyone is a potential combatant a potential antagonist. i
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think it's difficult to talk about masculinity particularly in the united states without talking about the culture of violence we see the move from a society that simply was militarized to one that is now suffering from what i call the property of militarization which means you know a society is increasingly organized for the civil society for the production of violence a new kind of subject. and that's subject. it is a hyper masculine subject and subject is a subject that with guns it becomes a first shooter it's a subject that believes that violence is the one of the few choices left that people have to define what it means to inhabit a masculine body and be in the world i'm not the conversational type. of these ideals of masculinity as this shit is old guy at almost ridiculous extent if you take a look at someone like marcus the lead character in gears of war it's all built at the level of self-parody how huge and muscled he is.
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when the culture in general defines masculinity in this tough physical way and the vast majority of boys and men don't have those physical attributes video is going to provide a kind of fantasy world where by they can inhabit a socially sanctioned masculinity they find through some of the asian toughness violence and the bubble control without actually having to behave like that. the truth is these games are part of like an absolute a love bombing of gender that happens every time you open your eyes and when western culture these games are part and parcel of a constant messaging the guys have to be these tough thing and women have to be hot and that's really all there is to it there's no doubt that women when they do appear are being represented in a pretty narrow stereotypical ways in many video games although in the shooter games you know they're largely invisible ovarian module to the action there are many female characters but and this is often overlooked when we talk about video
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games the social space of going is also profoundly male and women players are kept out in a variety of quite disturbing ways others are a bit i don't pray to god i am of the game i am a bit a lot of these shooter games have incredibly strong online multiplayer components for you have to go online play with others and use your voice and if you have a sexist or culture the. going to enforce the message that women are a rarity so women may feel ill you needed from shooters not because of some in a swiss taste for them but because of a cultural problem that forces to them that they should stay away and leave your mark. warner doesn't live in those spaces or are dangerous at worst and just uncomfortable in their most benign. i love to play video games i often will play online but i tend to avoid online gameplay specifically for military shooters smack talk between players is
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incredibly homophobic racist and incredibly misogynistic before your. women who have even attempted to critique that space have been besieged by massage mistake abuse and really personally threatening abuse as well the most infamous case involves a cultural critic anita sarkeesian it when she announced a pretty innocuous kickstarter campaign to look at how women were represented in video games because the victim of a massive backlash i found myself the target of a massive online hate campaign all of my social media sites were flooded with threats of rape violence sexual assault death the wikipedia article about me was vandalized with sexism racism and pornographic images there was a campaign to report all of my social media accounts including my my kickstarter my youtube my twitter and they would report them as broad as spam even to terrorism in
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an effort to get them suspended there were images made pornographic images made in my likeness being raped by video game characters and sent to me again again and. there was even a game where players were invited to beat the bitch out and which upon clicking on the screen the image of me would become increasingly battered and bruised. if you look at this in his totality the hyper masculinity based on violence or control invisibility female characters be incredibly massaging this thick attacks on any woman that they send to the specialty critique that you don't exactly need to be a very skilled cultural analyst to see that a very particular and narrow notion of gender is what dominates these guys. you know it's often said one of the characteristics of videogames is that they allow you to be anything you want to be to explore alternative identities the shooter games are the exact opposite reinforcing the most regressive notions of masculinity
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and femininity. one of the consequences of the militarization of our culture and particularly popular culture is we shift the focus to the individual soldier what's so problematic there is that we are not taking a lock at the power structure those who wage war who make decisions of where we're going to go to war and how we're going to wage war not those who fill the boots on the ground and who follow the orders of those who make those decisions in games and don't talk about those geopolitical decisions games don't talk about the consequences to nations to civilizations. who are is a violent response to conflict and games don't have a gauge that. the video game version of war is
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a really distorted picture you know first of all there are no consequences to war most of all to yourself. you my fail and die but your back in the next game you never experience fear for your safety and life the way that real soldiers do. and the violence of video games as war george gervin appalled happy violence its death the delivered with a punch line or a job. with none of the consequences of real war none of the physical pain of this number meant the grieving of the family and friends of the people you blew away without a second. unlike real war everything is geared toward escalation the more people you kill and blow off the better and never towards resolution. there's no collateral damage because there are no cost to civilians that are in the way. it's interesting to see how a culture around playing military video games is something that is perhaps
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different from the culture of people who actually go and fight these wars. how do people imagine right and wrong and situations where there are only virtual consequences no one is actually hurt and yet it does reshape the way that they see that world.
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a ukrainian air force division pledges its allegiance to crimea as citizens of the peninsula prepared to defend their land against the ultra nationalist threat from kiev. as they cood leaves ukraine's economy on its knees kiev turns to the i.m.f. for a rescue package despite the massive wealth of some of the country's new rulers. and afghanistan's president launches a tirade against the u.s. government saying it's ignored the interests of his people in the long running war . good morning you're watching r.t.
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coming to you live from moscow it is nine am here in the russian capital. defying the interim leadership n.k.f. an entire air force regiment is the latest to declare its allegiance to the crimean people they eight hundred personnel and almost fifty jets are now under the control of local authorities following in the footsteps of the ukrainian navy commander and most of the military stationed in the peninsula this brings the total number of troops who've reportedly switch sides to nearly six thousand in the last two days. as more while this is an air force base here in the crimea. in that they have forty five make fighter jets and around eight hundred personnel members and all of them have now swore their allegiance to the crimean authorities are becoming in addition to other crimean police military. needy emergency services who are have all said that they will not fulfill what they call are illegal orders coming from the self-appointed government of point of thought is in
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kiev it's not only about those who were in service before the uprising happened here for. the former chief commander in chief of ukraine's navy fleet who was appointed by the new in kiev after the uprising you know says that the only all orders will take will come from also the local authorities here in the crimea. region the people of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol ice which is strictly comply with the orders of the supreme commander of crimea and the commanders of military units approved by him as well as with the requirements of military regulations i swear to honorably perform my duty and protect the life and freedom of the residents of crimea and the city of sevastopol. meanwhile it seems support within the military off in your thirty's in kiev is declining even in western parts of the country there are reports that several special force brigades
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have refused to fulfill your orders to march on the crimea here on the peninsula most of the zero local military bases in arsenals are now under the complete control of local authorities those servicemen who refused to pledge their allegiance to the autonomous republic of crimea of either a left of the peninsula or resigned all together now currently all of the strategic facilities like airports government buildings even the streets of cities are patrolled by self-defense squads and basically local authorities are currently building their own independent defense ministry and navy while kiev has been drafting reserve servicemen to. their military forces but so far only around one point five percent of these reserves showed up. meanwhile anti-government rallies have been held across ukraine south and east thousands took to the streets of adesa yet where russian activists also took control of local
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administration buildings and those protests were further along the russian border in the cities of. paul with crowds defying the new government in kiev and calling for referendums on greater autonomy for their regions. a team of negotiators from the international monetary fund is heading to kiev to meet you cranes itself proclaimed author at ease they'll be discussing the terms of a crucial loan to save the country from default here is seeking fifteen billion dollars in aid which falls well short of the estimated thirty five billion that it will need by the end of twenty fifteen to keep the economy afloat foreign debt now stands at one hundred forty billion dollars a huge burden for a country with a shrinking g.d.p. however those who have risen to power on the back of the months long uprising can't complain about their personal budgets paid to all of us explains they overthrew the
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elected government now the people of kiev's independence square up a message for those who would lead the country to get out there so they have to gather together all these old perks and put their store money that's in foreign accounts into ukraine not just their money but sell their houses their curbs their jewelry and put it into national bank two of the latest names to take over key roles in ukraine are also among the richest in the country. pointed at the governors of the twelve skin tone yet screech ins respectively ski is the third richest man in ukraine with a fortune estimated at a cool two point four billion dollars well is thought to be worth around two billion but other members of the parliament appointed authorities in kiev hardly poverty stricken at least not going by their property portfolios this is the kiev
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home of interim prime minister are seen in the new york it's one of the more modest dwellings belonging to members of the interim government but some of ukraine's new leadership live far more opulent lifestyles. or you tag new block was supposed to live in a one hundred square meter a partner. however after no one of the residents could recall ever having seen him ukrainian journalists discovered he was actually living in a mansion surrounded by high walls and there's the country gears up for elections the business affairs of the potential presidential candidates have come under the microscope former prime minister yulia timoshenko is the proud owner of a series of luxury homes including one in the exclusive village of silver bay which boasts a private beach and moorings for a yacht. bought a shank is multi million dollar country pile there's more than a little of the white house about it for many of those on independence square too
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many presidential hopefuls have been too close to too much of the country's count for far too long. i want to see professionals not only running the country they have all been around the power for a long time and want to see new faces each a real specialist but despite the calls for an end to the reign of the oligarchs from protesters it seems that all of those vying for power in kiev come straight out of ukraine's financial elite peter all over r.t. kiev meanwhile tempers have been flaring at the u.n. security council's emergency session on ukraine the meeting was called by russia moscow's envoy had to fend off strong criticism from his western colleagues are in a port nihilists and in. well the u.n. security council met for the third time since friday to discuss the crisis in ukraine russian ambassador to the u.n. to tell you churkin told security council members that moscow's actions in recent
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days are fully appropriate and legitimate mr churkin says that ukraine's ousted leader victory had a quote it sent a letter previously to our president vladimir putin requesting that he use the russian military to restore law and order in ukraine ambassador churkin says that despite the fact that it was forcefully ousted from power moscow believes that he remains the legitimate president of ukraine at this moment now the russian envoy held up of photocopy. letter to all security council members and even read parts of what was written. to president putin received the following letter from the president of ukraine. which. was legitimately elected president of ukraine i state something even so i might add that is an unlawful and seizure of power in kiev ukraine to the brink of civil war with countries and kills the life the
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security and the rights particularly in the safe used for when threatened also under the influence of western countries that are open to terror and violence people are being prosecuted for the language they speak and for political legitimacy most in this regard i address the president of russia vladimir putin to request the use of military forces with the russian federation to restore. order stability in the protection of the people of viktor yanukovych which the first of march two thousand and fourteen now ambassador churkin also told security council members that while all nationalists continue to threaten the lives of ethnic russians in ukraine he says there is also information of provocation being prepared against the russian black sea fleet which has been in place for many years based on agreements with ukraine. now while many western are ways that the security council defended these new government democratic and we didn't ambassador churkin question
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how would the u.s. would react if the radicals subjected a local official to a so-called kangaroo court and event that took place in ukraine not so long ago. when administrative buildings were hit that was when the head of the municipality was drugged from kind of to color on the cry to smoking you know is this a democracy is that this a normal political process in chicago for example. it is now depending on how the conflicts in ukraine if it has to late or if they see things if tensions continue rising we probably will see the security council meet once again to displace to discuss this ongoing crisis. on the front line of a deepening a diplomatic row of ukraine in washington has been making some harsh statements against moscow stance on the crisis with secretary of state john kerry once again traveling to kiev to meet with the new government there an associate looks at
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whether the u.s. has been following its own advice. we all know that the united states prides itself on being the beacon of democracy and freedom when it comes to russia's latest step surrounding the events unraveling in ukraine accusations have been flying high from washington but if we look at countless facts past and present well the u.s. demands that it's finger pointing the see can seriously by the rest of the world how often has the u.s. listened to what others had to say on its actions russia has a naval base in crimea that has been there for years the us in the meantime has more than seven hundred military bases around the world and is the notorious world leader of getting involved in wars that are opposed to not just at home but also abroad but memory when convenient becomes short you just don't know the country on phony pretext. as if the invasion of iraq in two thousand and three had never happened under what was later proven to be such false pretenses some would argue the world is still shocked the people of the united states and our friends and
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allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. we will meet that threat now with our army air force navy coast guard and marines the u.s. war in afghanistan is officially the longest running war in american history and let's not forget the drone war killing civilians abroad that the u.s. is leading. despite sharp criticism of these tactics and most recently syria of course yet another potential military escapade that the u.s. president had been rooting for that was essentially avoided at the last minute largely thanks to russia that spearheaded brokering another way towards a solution of the son of the united states should take military action against syrian regime targets military aggression one example after another russia has strategic reasons to care about what happens in crimea next as opposed to undertaking military ventures one never found see strikes as has become so traditional in the u.s.
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it barely surprises anyone anymore. well military action has not even been given a green light for by the russian president and russia never said it's interested in war with ukraine were guard less the world's top aggressor accuses moscow of being one flying double standards upon convenience and as they said r.t. new york well arty's keeping a close eye on all the developments in ukraine stay with us for the latest on the crisis on air and online. coming up in the program assisted child suicide. belgium's new law allowing euthanasia for chronically ill children to meet a wave of criticism from those who believe such decisions should have never been put in the hands of under eighteen's. the president of afghanistan has hit out at the u.s. in a washington post interview saying the war in his country was waged without his people's interests in mind as the united withdrawal deadline draws closer deadly attacks by
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the taliban and even many fearing the pullout will leave the country at the mercy of extremists well earlier i spoke with artie's lucy catherine off who seen the plight of afghans firsthand. and he really focused a lot on the issue of. really saying that this is a billion casualties in afghanistan have essentially dissipated his country's cooperation and partnership with the united states really not holding back in any punches in terms of his criticism and actually want to play a sound bite of an example of this the american president has said they're not here for afghanistan so it's not the american blood shed for the afghanistan or the american resources spent for afghanistan if you go to president obama's speeches he repeatedly says that he's here for the sake of american interests for the safety of america for the security of america but they're here in afghanistan helping afghanistan in order to help america therefore it's not for us it's for a cause that america holds dear afghans are angry and they're frustrated about this
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but at the same time one of the most surprising things that i discovered when speaking to people there is folks are actually quite nervous about the americans pulling out while they're not thankful for the developments that happened on the ground on the ground nobody of course wanted the war nobody was happy with the way that the occupation the invasion had turned out they were also quite fearful that the country wouldn't be able to stand on its own two feet once the americans leave i mean it's been costly in terms of both finances out of the new lawyers i mean what sort of country american even though it is the u.s. is going behind it it's a difficult situation i mean on one hand yes the americans that succeed in ousting the taliban regime we've had some small steps of progress for example afghanistan does have a very vibrant and thriving independent media but there's been a lot of setbacks for every step forward it seems like there's been quite a few setbacks and one of the biggest things actually is in terms of the casualties issue and cars i didn't really get at the real problem according to the united nations more than eight thousand afghan civilians were killed in twenty thirteen
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just three percent of that was at the hands of international military forces and by and large seventy five percent of those deaths and injuries were at the hands of the taliban and so we really do see the taliban. making gains in certain areas security not at all guaranteed very unclear how the elections are going to be able to proceed in light of that and you also have this other issue of a war dependent economy afghanistan cannot survive without international aid most of its revenues come from either aid or the underground drug smuggling industry and so what kind of a country the americans leave behind in light of those developments it's really quite unclear. what online and also you don't call me big brother but us a university student has been arrested in texas for filming police officers for more on that unusual case had online plus. the mayor of london gets on the wrong side of the islamic community by saying listen i'm children are at risk of being taught crazy stuff and more about the controversy i'll see.
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right. first right. and i think that you're. on a reporter's. belgium's recent decision to legalize euthanasia for terminally ill children has stopped face opposition across europe while some accept the move on humanitarian grounds others believe it could be abused by parents margaret howell reports. first the netherlands and belgium two countries where the killing of children can now be justified in law and belgium doctor assisted suicide is now available to anyone of
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any age theoretically sick children as young as one or two years old can be helped to die if it's decided their suffering is too much to take although even for many parents who've seen their loved ones waste away in pain the mere idea is just too much to contemplate children don't know what an easy is it's an invention of adults parents if they are parents i think they should do all they can to do they. the moment of this bruno lost his fourteen year old daughter our drape to leukemia and she said she wanted to hold on to all the time she could walk through. and then she dies she dies in the arms of. her mother i've never cried when she
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was but she because it was so important to. create. this law won't make choosing euthanasia easy all parents and doctors must be in agreement that there is no weather option most importantly the child must be conscious and able to make the decision themselves the author of the spill says in many cases this law is the most humane option this is about it is the possibility for everyone to choose that something and not to accept the suffering too difficult and to set a certain point. is enough. he says and consider that one can finally ask because you die or the weapon so that the suffering stops or nothing gets in the end the freedom that critics suggest there is no way a child is able to make a life or death decision of this magnitude elsie saw her nine year old boy who died of cancer in belgium and then to fire somebody called boy i'm sorry i forgot about
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getting a photo but it's paul and then he got that is. it but you will see the big needn't pay was that in. angry because you will soon have a cow so the doctor said to me we're gonna last into the with a fire we have everest in week because we've got not up it you know when you're going to die. but she rejects wholeheartedly the idea of euthanasia for children and expresses some doubt as to the real driving force behind the small concept is that a specific over. children's. room saudi i think is. says just a few not. so long. court then palette of care for the young in belgium is extensive and well funded psychologist doctors and nurses work to
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provide the most comfortable surroundings possible virus to kids so when my have chronic kids in the last year in the last six months or so have two kids who die here and these children suffer from serious illnesses many of them are fatal and it's in places like this in brussels ville indigo that they can come and receive the support medical care and much leave it respite from a fight many of them will never walk away from. nurse sunny a developer has treated over one thousand terminally ill children and admits she's concerned about the direction this legislation is taking society in the first version of the thing is you know this. to do with a down syndrome of premature children and. and under. and so that's a big problem in other words is this an isolated law designed to help those who can't bear to live anymore or
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a slippery slope to make human life disposable margaret how in brussels. or international news in the brief now the tensions have once again flared up on the korean peninsula pyongyang test fired two missiles into the say the u.s. and its allies south korea who are holding joint military drills in the area of the north to show restraint the missiles have a range of more than five hundred kilometers enough to hit any targets south of the border. yemeni officials say at least four al qaeda linked militants have been killed in two separate u.s. drone attacks in the country there are strikes came just hours after a radical fighters reportedly gunned down several yemeni soldiers yemen is one of the few countries where the u.s. admits to the use of assassin drones the controversial practice has cause scores of civilian deaths that. israel has admitted to doubling the rate of settlement expansion in the west bank during two thousand and thirteen
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despite international calls to freeze construction or not to apply the law and meanwhile thousands of palestinians are waging what they call a humiliating struggle just to get to work every day and it seems middle east correspondent polis leah reports. the reality of the israeli occupation for palestinians who need to introduce him to work every day it is like today and some days it is even harder when the man has a family needs to survive and bring food home and it is very hard but what can i do i've been crossing the checkpoint for twenty seven years i know wakes at four in the morning to spend hours waiting at the kalandia checkpoint it's the only way he and many others can get into jerusalem on foot i feel like. they can only be standing in the queue just. for hours just to cross the line. why why why are they. doing in this way.
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yet there is a fast track option to get from. and it comes down to being wealthy enough to have a car and a joins us in our vehicle it takes us seven minutes the soldiers don't even give us a second glance the soldier is laughing and we cross into israel without being or anything so what the checkpoints about is it about security i don't think so we just to prove that it's not about security at all for some it's about driving a wedge between palestine's rich and poor what israel does one way or weakening palestinian resistance this where the discrimination between one palestinian group and another protestant divide the government but israel's military insists the purpose is presenting terror not preferential transport. i can give you an answer and whether i'll try to cross or not i will have to check that out but our rule is
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to stop terrorists and many times we find weapons and explosives on people who try to go through the checkpoint but for these people it does nothing more than humiliate and and go scenes like this play out each and every morning thousands of palestinians need to cross the street point before eight am so they can go to work on the israeli side and then it's repeated again at night policy r.t. at the kalandia checkpoint in a manner. well up next a special report on the often thin line between violence in video games and the effects on reality. live.
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pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i roll researcher. to the we'll call it on the road side to the car skidded at breakneck speed and fell into a ditch and i was thrown out of the car she was like a broken dog it wasn't a single hole piece left us and i thought if i lived and had a chance to start my life from scratch with it i would start making goals to help children into its component right after he was born the baby was all in casts. his legs are getting bigger and the ortho says get too small so we have to order
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new ones said lola has raised money for us she helps us to get a leg braces five years after my potentially fatal injuries in a car crash i gave birth to my little miss a i think she's my reward for helping all those children who are selling the dogs to buy life for the children. we have a history of being fascinated by violence and we grapple with it by making art about it. through. violent video game train phrase shooting spree by
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playing video games and. the relationship between the video games and violence might be weaker than the relationship between video games and military is that. if you want to be a soldier. recruiting officer. the boot camp. culture is the bridge the divide between the public in the middle so. the kind of fantasy the next that's. the enemy is everywhere to be and then you have to protect everything and assume that everyone is a potential. sixty billion dollar your gaming industry is also under scrutiny from critics who say
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that the graphic violence in video games contributes to real world gun violence the discussion we hear all the media about video games some people claiming there was sponsible for violence we have raised a generation of children to kill others mostly the makers of crimes insisting they have no facts games are not posing dangers for children or adults. about media violence that's been going on now for almost fifty years and that way of framing things has gotten us no nearer to understanding what's really happening when a culture is flooded with images of graphic violence we really have a different set of questions just whether they make people more aware they may affect us in other ways as well. black ops set up first day sales record five point six million copies of the activision game sold in the united states in the u.k. during the first twenty four hours a record didn't just shatter previous video game sales but also surpassed moreover sales in two thousand and twelve the industry made in the united states alone over
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thirteen billion dollars on many different platforms consols handheld tablets the p.c. computer movies take in ten point six billion at the box office and video game sales total twenty three billion dollars more than movies and music combined the video game industry is diverse in the genres it offers in the games you can play and the types of experiences you're going to have and they're such beautiful clever magnificent worlds that you can temporarily occupied. the. star. tours to. rehire. the slots she says. but even though games have come a long way in a thirty to forty years and john rose are expanding and seams and the visual capabilities of games are going places we can imagine twenty years ago
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they're still overwhelmingly dominated by the feelings of war and violence. it's no mystery that violence is such a big part of television movies a video games are on the one hand it's relatively simple and cheap to script and produce. it doesn't require a great deal of creativity or imagination to figure out you know how to blow someone off or shoot something. on the other hand the violence travels really well across borders you know there's no language barriers no possibilities of cultural misunderstandings when the economics of culture industries like video games depend upon global audiences anything that works equally well in the u.s. europe or asia is invaluable. since. ninety percent of the video games that enter the mass coffers consciousness have
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something to do with you know shooting one faction or another saving the planet the universe your girlfriend by virtue sometime no final. call of duty is really the one that created this trend it's sold probably more than any other video game other than grand theft auto two of the bestselling video games one is about war one is about high crime so you see publishers desiring to double down on those themes. the traditional commercial blockbuster game industry has had the challenge of rising budgets alongside advancing technology for some time fans are very demanding they want to see the technology maximized to its fullest potential that costs a lot of money. games
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are now made by multiple studios two hundred people at one hundred people at another these budgets get into the hundred millions this is someone you care about this is a squad member who does everything from sniffing out explosives to protecting the team to this next call of duty being in a new world on a whole new story. of sequels to three years and fours and videogame franchises because they slowly into rate things that have worked before they were lucky enough to get something in a first title that found an audience and was profitable they're going to do another one no i had some changes to it but they'll be very careful about the changes. doing something that is artistically daring or breaking from the conventions that
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you've seen before of the way that men and women are presented or the way the war is presented is hard to do for the same reasons that it's hard to make a genuinely artistically daring movie you've got to stick with the that have proven to make tons of money there's these big financial pressures to deliver the same ideas about war and conflict in the same ideas about men and women trying to make something. you want to be given a goal that is easy to execute easy to understand and then most going to video games because they're driven by mechanics how you play it it's more about learning how to use those mechanics and those tools that they give you and it's easier to do that with a simple goal. so the concentration of violence makes first person shooter video game stand out in terms of what's different from other media. even movies we think of as violent the violence actually occupies only
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a very small part of the time not in video games it is ever present. the other thing that's really distinctive is the interact. one of the key touchdowns for game scholars is this notion of interactivity or procedure ality we do things in games that we cannot do with other art forms we make choices. are you. sure your hate just said. the mind is involved in an active way because you're making decisions about whether to shoot who to shoot so it's not a passive activity and then your body has to do something it has to operate the controller and so you're even more encouraged. now all the very best thought tries
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to move you to this emotional play in video games that level of involvement is almost intrinsic to technology so it's even more powerful and so you have this industry that's really big with lots of people engaged in this interactive way playing for hours and hours in an environment that's just steeped in violence we have to ask what effect this is having both on the uses and society more generally . police reason to believe the newtown killer loved violent video games could that be part of our problem there's a large body of research out there on video game violence that's pretty much in line with what the research about media violence in general says that there is very little evidence that persons committing real life islands do so soley because of heavy media viewing and vary the level of the video game play as engage in more violence than those that don't play. that should be surprising any behavior is the end result of a number of interacting factor has the most you can say is that playing violent
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video games is just one in a list of potential risk factors for committing violence. one of the newest studies explicitly link violent behavior in the real world to excessive violent video game play what we're not saying is that if there are no other risk factors playing violent video games is going to create a juvenile delinquents or a mass shooter or anything like that in fact that's not the case but what this research does show is that one of those risk factors that can contribute at least to some extent does look to be exposure to media violence and in this particular study video game violence. we know that any media response to violence is incredibly complex there are risk factors for someone acting violently are going to be multiple but even the suggestion that media violence might influence us at all
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is often responded to sometimes by the industry and so often by players that it's cathartic they're just blowing off steam and they play games to get out those bad feelings that aggression and that fear and anxiety. basically like authorises idea is if we can somehow express our emotions in a safe environment that that will somehow reduce. our tendency to act on those emotions in the real environment and although the idea is really interesting easy to understand it also is wrong it is one of the most well debugged ideas in all of psychology when you play first person shooter you start off seeing the gun and the explosions but eventually it just becomes the physics you become attentive to and fascinated by the game mechanics so what a lot of people don't understand when they see someone playing a violent game is that on some level after like you know the fourth hour they sort
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of stop seeing some of the stuff that looks egregious they're really thinking about the game mechanics on a deep. so in one sense this is good news because it means that what you're actually playing is the game system you're not really playing a war game on the other hand it's terrifying news because exactly what desensitization people worry about that we start looking at something that ought to be terrifying and ugly and just see it as vectors of force. they look like bounty yard. where the locals can enjoy the sun and the ocean. but what was buried here years ago. i mean these people a suffering the consequences. how
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much more poison lies on the this ground. when the behind this there is what we call the callet bankole which there is because it's all physical and you left by security test was closed to the station of radionuclides despite your the screening efforts they were made to don't hold and i saw a little less than two kilos attorney and when you're stuck in iraq the call relief it's out of the ten meters down you can attest a never ending legacy. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c on fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might think. it's because when full attention and the
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mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on we're going to be. at our teen or. we have a different approach. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not like they're mad i'm not. a. i you guys talk to the jokes well handled.
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right. first street. and i think you're. on a reporter's twitter. and instagram. i absolutely am frightened of the potential of games desensitize people we know they can because the military uses games and simulations to desensitize people i am often concerned at the way that we cheer for increasingly gory had charts rather than say i don't like this it's not pleasant for me to see i don't want to pretend
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i'm committing a christian act. what most researchers mean by desensitisation is the normal negative emotional reaction that people have when they are faced with violent images that that normal negative reaction tends to decrease with exposure it's that may give emotional reaction that helps prevent people from acting really violently even relatively brief exposure can desensitize us and there are some studies that show that this kind of desensitisation does lead to increased aggressive behavior.
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when one of the result of that defense is ation can actually be a loss of empathy and that is a really interesting result when it comes to violent video games the idea that the more you play the less effect that you can be to a victim or to your enemy i think that's really disconcerting because that ties directly into the narrative of war and violence if games that you know do you think that is a shame and lack of empathy is almost required in order to play for hours and hours and hours so the connection between decent living and and lack of empathy i think that's the place we need to go where we're looking at the effect of violent video games on us on the likelihood of whether or not we'll become aggressive or not isn't it interesting if the idea of will be moving towards others. when we turn an experience into a spectacle when we disassociate our own embodied actions from an activity we also absent ourselves from certain kinds of moral investment.
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what is tricky is. how do we get beyond kind of broad generalizations about. how technology impacts. to thinking about how we make moral choices and how we teach making moral choices there's a hardening of the culture there's a distance a distancing from the social from questions of compassion social justice being responsive to the needs of others and it creates what i call a formative culture of cruelty and so in many ways a video games represent one element of that culture of cruelty they make it appear as one of the few spaces left where pleasure can be felt where gratification can be grass where desire is can be filled in where identities can become where social relationships and problems can be addressed through the mediation of violence.
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we have a long history of being absolutely fascinated by violence and what it means because there's something terrifying about it and we grapple with it by making art about it . when you see at the end of the iliad. he's killed by the gods basically and it's an absolute bloodbath the delight that the authors had in describing stuff like sound of the sword going into the metal helmet and piercing the brains out the brains were jealous that. but am i equating the iliad with call of duty not really because there's a big difference between a poem written to make spiritual sense of the universe and a piece of glossy entertainment produced by corporation that doesn't particularly care about the more masses it's giving off. when we think of depictions of violence in video games one way of approaching it is that as
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the great media scholar george goodna once that who can do one to whom and get away with it that is media violence is never just an act it's a story about the role of violence in life who are victims and who a perpetrator and the major theme in that story is that violence should be the first response so any kind of conflicts you know not negotiation not discussion not arriving at consensus but a solution that comes from the barrel of a gun. there's a structure of violence that mediates the culture that appears in a whole range of sites we can look at we can look at popular popular sports and streams or as we can look at cage fighting and the message increasingly becomes clear that violence is not just a commodity is an identity it's a way of life is something we inhabit in order to exhibit what has become one of
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the few choices we have left to be alive to feel something. when violence becomes the only motif essentially see kids acting out in mimicking that behavior not all kids but it certainly becomes one of the more valued responses when you have to ask yourself what kind of culture produces the conditions in which are violence no longer simply a matter of attainment but actually become the most form of pleasure. do you have to be along to the fact that on television we have a run of the shows there are both serial killers from the following through a series that's now based on hannibal lector. dexter are you the serial killer. us not only does it human violence but it seems to suggest that it's the spectacle
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of violence is the only source of pleasure that we have left. is interesting one of the major ways that boys and men relate to each other in our culture is through violence. so when boys or men a playing shooter games with someone in the same room or when they're in one of these you know multiplayer online games their form of connection is through the violence of the guy rather connecting in some other way but you know you do. go away there's one. thing you have are is sort of weird thing is it. looks like bondo were some people. all know all that it was a little. slam really grown. so places where boys and men all social with each other a really narrow one dimensional and increasingly be following through violence and . it would be
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a good. fit but i think. you're looking for. one of the ways in which video games will sell themselves is to talk about the accuracy of the weapons included and oftentimes they will reference the experts that they brought onto the game develop it most often those are representatives from gun manufacturers and we're here at the two thousand and twelve international. photo shoot for medal of honor warfighter i'm here with drake clark from magpul a great partner they brought the c.t.r. as we got to be very. different you know we got a variety of different stocks and grips and got to keep bags for certain members sites on there are new sleeves system that mystery in the to do attach a point on it or a say in a that's awesome but this is an incredibly attractive relationship for the gun
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manufacturers because they get a former free advertising and such character their product and their product being placed in an exciting and fun environment because an ounce for better advertising. the technology now exists to have a weapon rendered in absolute lifelike detail in the game and for gamers to interact with that object and become excited about the degree to which it's rendered gun manufacturers they are hoping that the young man who picks up the game will develop an affinity for a certain brand or style of weapon and be drawn to it. product placement is one of the most insidious forms of intrusion in an entertainment experience. sometimes there's product placement for very similar to sometimes there's product placement for advertising purposes. oh yeah.
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or even if a gun manufacturer has not created an economic relationship with the publisher to a specific model of a gun appear in the game the manufacturer still wins i mean it's still advertising because it's still product placement just not a formal sense the product of the place of the game it seemed to be used most often used to be very glamorous way. hard drive solution to the right. switch to so i don't. see it as the last. member switch and this is always first reloading one thing that you've seen now because a video game thing you haven't seen historically is the familiarity that even though you don't younger children pre-teens teenagers have with advanced weapons so they know the difference between a nine millimeter a forty five and a fifty caliber boy and the damage that each one can give.
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the gun industry wants to my guns normal so they're just an accepted part of the world in which people actually live. and then what individual gun manufactures want to do is to have the bear bryant of model be recognizable within this setting my first rifle a moment you never forget those and even mom will love the way they can make one to their own taste the ultimate aim of course of a small to go is to boost gun sales in real life and it seems to be working pretty well kentucky officials are now considering charges in the case of the five year old who shot and killed his two year old sister with his own gun a my first rifle twenty two caliber police say the child pulled the gun from the backpack then shot himself in the chest this is every parent's worst nightmare that gun wasn't just left out but again it was left in a style spider-men backpack the fourteen year old was shot in the head last night
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by accident by another girl there exists in this country sadly a callous corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious violent video games i felt that the n.r.a. shift to look at gun violence through the spectrum of video games was very smart because for most people that is in fact their relationship with guns and if you shift the conversation back to entertainment then that becomes your context for talking about them. now once you know that the relationship between the video game industry and the gun industry is so intimate and the attempts by n.r.a. executive vice president wayne la pierre you know in the aftermath of the newtown
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shootings to blame a video games for real will violence becomes even more bizarre and strange than everyone first thought it's a joke because the very people he's blaming the video game manufacturers are the people who gun manufacturers have partnered with to make sure their weapons a highly visible in video games if we accept that video games are to blame for violence as law. and the gun industry which he's the representative is equal responsibility in fact. more responsibility because it's their products that actually do the real killing not the virtual killing it's one of the most bizarre confusing statements i've ever heard. just a geisha this huge industry reveals the hidden. troubled waters of. the day you have funded me because. i saw you spread all over the most toxic food you
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have and who will profit defeats officials inquiry furthermore health restriction. really know what's inside the. details. please. please. please.
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